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Testimonial of Maryjk_99, Cassiopaean Forum Member

I am actually a latecomer to the Cassiopaea group, having only joined about a year ago.  I was simply seeking answers, an understanding and  truth about why our world is in the state that it is in.  I was looking for the origin of evil, the roots from which it sprang.  Thinking that biblical references were somehow encoded in the text, I came across one of Laura’s articles referencing the Garden of Eden.  I saw how truths were interspersed with lies throughout these texts and I am very grateful for the critical and objective histories she has been able to uncover.

In this past year, I have learned about human history, nutrition and health, science, and have found an alternative news source (Sott.net) which have had a profound effect on my life.  I have learned and am still learning of authors such as Gurdjieff, Mouravieff, Velikovsky,  Casteneda, just to name a few.  I have become acquainted with The Law of One, have taken closer looks at the stories of the Holy Grail along with other mythologies which so affected our ancient ancestors.  In short, I have learned more in this past year than ever in my life.
I have also been exposed to and am still learning psychology from authors such as Martha Stout, Harvey Cleckey  and George K. Simon and have read numerous excerpts of  Lobaczewski’s  life’s work.  Learning from these sources has helped me recognize my own personality and also has helped my everyday life in recognizing and avoiding certain influences in my life.

It has been a fascinating journey, and I have but scratched the surface of all there is to uncover.  I appreciate the work of all the forum members and their willingness to share all that they have learned.  I have never thought the group as a negative entity;  but they are uncovering the negativity and helping all to learn that it does exist and how it affects the lives of each and every one of us.  In short, they give the lie exactly what it deserves, the truth.

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Testimonial of Luis Felipe Ovando, Cassiopaean Forum Member

I found the Cassiopaea experiment in 2007 while searching for information online about paranormal phenomena, possessions and parasitic entities, subjects that I was very interested in.

A search led me to the Cassiopaean project’s site in Spanish. It was a session with the C’s which addressed the theme of the dimensional faller.

At first I had no idea what it was all that, but caught my attention the information presented here and more than anything else the way it was treated with a large number of articles about various topics as relevant, always providing sources and inviting the reader to approach the material with an open mind and to use critical thinking. Something unusual, (at least for what I was used to) it definitely represented a new way of seeing reality.

I spent about a year reading much of the material available in Spanish and then, though still in shock about everything that I was discovering from these text but motivated to know more, I joined the forum.

As many others I guess, I came to the forum with a large burden of false beliefs and preconceived ideas (used to carry a very unhealthy life and my view of reality was certainly very close to that of the New Age). So not long after I began to interact in the forum I experienced the first shock that it would show on the one hand how negatively influenced my mind was and to what extent I was unaware of my own pathologies, which was hard of course but only in the short term. But on the other hand, from another perspective, I could see how positive it is the existence of a network of this type and the enormous potential when used as a tool to really aspire to improve as a person.

Through the work that Laura, Ark and all the people that make possible the various projects of the group, I have known concepts and values that have changed dramatically and for the better the way I see and face life.

During the time I have been in contact with their work I have gone through difficult personal situations that could hardly have been overcome had it not been for the valuable information gained from their work and the equally valuable help from forum members. Therefore, personally I have nothing but thanks, and consider it a blessing to have found this community that Laura and Ark lead.

Regarding the attacks and accusations of being a cult, I can say as others have noted, that claims are nothing but rubbish, obvious product of the deranged mind of someone who must feel very threatened by the whole body of work that Laura & company presents in a generous way (and for free) to anyone who might be interested.

Personally I can say I have never  been pressured to do or stop doing something I do not want to, on the contrary if there is a particular feature that distinguishes this community is an absolute respect for the free will of each person, allowing everyone to learn (if the person wishes to do so) at their own pace, but otherwise is always willing to help anyone who requests it by making suggestions that could possibly be a solution to the problem. Anyway, it ultimately depends on each individual whether or not to take advice.

I do not think anyone can claim without lying that Laura asks for something in return, unless maybe  the commitment by those who can benefit from their work. Although I do not know her personally, I cannot think of anyone who embodies concepts such as generosity honesty better than her, or someone more serious and committed in the seeking of truth.

So, far from feeling alienated as any member of a cult would be, I feel better than ever, much more committed and even in great debt to life by allowing me to find this incredible project.

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Transcribing and Defaming On Godlikeproductions

Additional comments to “Reductio ad absurdum” by Laura added July 2005

It has recently been brought to my attention that there is an “ex-Cass Group” member who is posting rather libelous remarks about us on Internet Discussion boards. A reader sent these comments to me, and there is really only one remark that has any significant bearing on our work, and which I would like to address, the rest is just simply opinion (libelously written, at that) which seems to have developed from the singular problem of perception. Here is what was said:

From: OPie: I was also one of those who transcribed the original sessions. And, yes, when they were published on the website they had been changed. One was changed considerably. She had been charged with this by others before, and until I saw it happen first-hand, I didn’t believe it was true. I figured she changed punctuation or corrected things, but that’s not what happened with the sessions I transcribed. [...]

Now the problem with this is that if she changed the two that I transcribed, how many more of the sessions were tampered with? If you find one piece of work that’s bogus, how can you trust the rest? [...]

Allow me to give some background context in which to address this accusation.

As Ark has written above,

…the Cassiopaean channeling has characteristics of a scientific experiment. Think of scientists in their lab, working on the great laws of the universe. They perform an important series of experiments. They are trained professionals, they know their stuff, they know their laboratory equipment and its quirks. But they are human beings. Once in a while someone will make some dirty joke, once in a while they will have to discard a series of data, because mice have messed up their equipment during the night. Now, think, what advantage it would be if they would write in their paper the dirty joke, include the mice data, the ink blobs etc. etc.

That is not the way of science. And the Cassiopaean experiment will proceed as a scientific one. With scientific standards in mind. The Cassiopaean channeling is Critical Channeling. It is in this respect that it is DIFFERENT from other channeling. And it will stay so.

In the first few years of the experiment, I fell way behind in transcribing because I had so many things on my plate that I could barely keep up. A group member who regularly attended sessions offered to help me with transcribing, so I sent her home with a few tapes. When she emailed the transcripts back to me, and told me it was so “fast and easy” and she didn’t understand why it was so time consuming for me to do it, I just figured that she must be a faster typist than I was and I didn’t think too much about it.

BUT, when I read them, I found that what she had transcribed did NOT mesh with my memory of the session.

Okay, that’s a problem. Maybe I remembered wrong, but I didn’t think so. I got the tape out and sat down to listen to it while going over the written words in front of me. Sure enough, my friend had skipped entire words – even phrases – that she apparently deemed immaterial to the context, but which were crucial to the meaning of the C’s answer. In other places, she had written “not” when it was not there, or had omitted a “not” that was actually there. This was really disturbing because it completely reversed the meaning of what the person was asking, and thus, reversed the answer the C’s gave!

Just to make sure that it wasn’t ME who was unable to hear what was being said, I asked a couple other people to listen with me while going over the transcript. Seems that I wasn’t in a state of delusion: the errors were really there.

What was obvious was that this member – who was otherwise very talented – was unable to transform spoken speech into written speech accurately. Not only was there a problem with missing words or words put in that were not there, the text was full of dangling participles and either devoid of punctuation, or had the wrong punctuation. This often had the result of changing the sense of what the person was saying. Here, I need to make it clear that I am talking about the discussion of the attendees, as well as their questions, and not the C’s answers which are a different matter. There was also a repeating problem of the wrong person being designated as having said something when it was actually someone else who had said it. All of these problems changed the meaning of many things and I was very dismayed to realize that I couldn’t just go in and fix a couple of things, I had to actually just do the whole thing over again.

I theorized that part of the problem must be because she had just gone through it so fast. I asked her how she had gone about the process. She told me that she had just typed up the written notes, and then had fast forwarded over those parts, actually listening only to the questions, and typed them in rapidly. I then explained what had happened and she became very upset. I had to replay some parts of the tape to her, stopping it and starting it so she could really hear what kinds of errors she had made, and she was in a state of shock that her mind had done this. Well, she excused it as being “in a hurry” or being “stressed” and so on. I agreed that this was a reasonable explanation, and just made up my mind that she ought to stick to what she did best and leave the transcribing to me even if it took me awhile to get around to it.

I pondered this event for some time after, wondering if it really was just lack of patience and stress. Sure, we know that this can profoundly affect what a person hears or sees, but was it that simple? I had also noticed that this person seemed to be able to “hear” some people at the sessions better than others because what they said was more accurately transcribed than what someone else said. I was also aware of the person’s feelings toward the individuals whose words were inaccurately reported, and there was a definite corelation. It seemed that there was a sort of “hearing bias” based in emotional bias and it was a very strange thing to observe indeed.

Now, let me say that I KNEW, without a doubt, that this individual was sincere and not deliberately messing up the transcripts. I knew she wasn’t consciously trying to slant the text to make one person look good, and another look stupid. And yet, there were “reading errors” in her “machine,” so to say.

Now, in transcribing the C’s sessions, there is a significant problem: The notes are often “messy” because a person will start writing letters, then assume that they know what the C’s are going to say, and will rush ahead to complete a word, while the C’s are actually spelling out something quite different. Then, if the person realizes that they have anticipated and written the wrong word, they then may try to make the correction, which makes them fall behind, and it is impossible to catch up. They skip words, drop words, and even invent words. So, relying on the notes is not possible either. We generally try to have several people taking notes at once (if possible), hoping that what one person may miss, will be caught by another person. This is actually an interesting exercise. During a session, we frequently stop and have each person read back what they have written, and the differences are quite startling!

22 July 00
Q: (I) [Attempts to read back remark with some difficulty.]
A: Suggestion: try to inscribe letters without trying to break into words while writing. Otherwise, you will lose step!
Q: (I) That’s right! I’m trying to anticipate what they are going to say. (L) And the interesting thing about this exercise is, it conditions your mind to NOT anticipate!
A: Which is good, indeed.

(I should mention that this excerpt came from a session attended by a group of women members of the Cass group who had traveled from all over the country to meet each other. Even though a couple of them later dropped out of the group, none of them has ever suggested that the session was presented inaccurately at all even though it was slightly edited for clarity. I should also mention that dozens of people have attended sessions and helped with note taking, and none of them have ever said that the transcripts were inaccurate or “altered.”)

The problem comes down to this, you simply can NOT transcribe fast, and you MUST compare notes, and even then, it can have errors that require correcting. There is NO short cut. You have to listen to every word, every letter, and type it exactly as it is heard. THEN, you have to go back over it and try to get the exact sense of what the person is trying to say, and convert it into a decent sentence for the sake of the reader. Believe me, that is not easy. Nobody talks in complete, grammatical sentences. And if I typed it exactly the way the person talked, nobody would understand a thing with all the dangling participles, interrupted with “Uh” or changes of direction and subject. In some cases, this sort of thing had to be retained because the person speaking changed direction several times, bringing in several threads, and the Cs would respond to ONE of these, and not the rest… and then the other people present would respond to something else the person had said that the C’s did not respond to, which then led off in a different direction, so in order for it to make sense, I have often had to type it exactly as it was said, no matter how confusing. I think many readers who have read the transcrips have seen a few such examples.

Well, there I was, looking at the fact that this friend and group member, who was so willing to be helpful, and whose sincerity could not be doubted in ANY sense whatsoever, obviously was not able to transcribe the tapes accurately because of a) a hearing problem; b) a patience problem; and c) an obvious internal bias problem. The the end result was that it took me longer to correct the transcript than it would have taken me to transcribe the tape in the first place. I decided that it was better if I just do it myself.

So, a few years later, again, I fell behind in transcribing. By this time, we had the Cass group and there were three people who volunteered to transcribe. So, copies were made of six sessions (I didn’t want to send out the original tapes), and each of these three people got two sessions to transcribe each. You could say it was a sort of “test.” Well, one of them was unable to do hers at all because the tapes were messed up. Rather than recopy them, since I was anxious to get them done, I just did them myself. The second person did hers and sent them back, and there wasn’t any problem. I just did a check, reorganized the punctuation of the questions, made sure that the proper attributions were made as to who was speaking (she hadn’t been present and could not know whose voice was whose), and there was no issue at all.

HOWEVER, the two sessions that went to the Third Person came back with problems that were acknowledged by the individual, some of which seem to be of the same sort as the ones described above when the member who actually was physically present at the sessions was unable to transcribe accurately! For some bizarre reason that I still can’t quite understand, this individual was incapable of actually HEARING what was being said on the tape. And here, I don’t mean that it was “un-hearable,” but that what was being said somehow got twisted when it went in her ears and connected with her brain. Damndest thing I ever saw. The individual wrote to me about her transcribing problems as follows:

From: “Linda D***”
Subject: Re: Mailing tapes
Date sent: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 12:38:37 -0800

[...]

A couple of things.

First, the background noise on the tapes was REALLY loud, and seemed to get louder when something important was being discussed (interesting, isn’t it?). There are a couple of places where I couldn’t understand Ark. It wasn’t his accent; it was a combination of him talking very quietly and the background noise being so loud. On the second tape (August 10), I got smart and put ** where I couldn’t hear what was being said.

The first tape (August 7) had a spot in it where there was nothing recorded for a while. Then it picked back up right about the time I’d decided it was finished. Then when it ended, it simply ended. No goodbye or anything (actually, so did the 2nd tape). But the first one had a very strange ending. You were basically concluding the session and asking if there was anything you needed to know, should have asked, and so forth. The answer was “Hold on to me”, then there was a sound like a heart beating, which became very loud, and the tape ended. On the answer, I’ve put the spaces in. It chould have been “Hold on, tom. M…” or “Hold on to m…”. I don’t know since it ended. [...]

The second tape was a little better quality than the first, though there were still a couple of areas where I couldn’t decipher what was being said — one in particular where Ark apparently asked a question, but I couldn’t hear it (I say “apparently”, because all of a sudden there was an answer).

Before I send the tapes back, I’ll try to listen to them straight-through (as opposed to stopping and starting) with the transcripts in front of me and make sure I didn’t miss anything. In the meantime, I thought I’d get them back to you right away; maybe between the two of you (or your notes from the sessions, if you have any), you can fill in any missing spots. If I find anything I’ve missed after listening to the tapes, I’ll correct the transcripts and E-mail the corrected copies to you.

When I went over the transcripts she had sent, there were many problems that made her effort almost useless. Naturally, I had the original tape and not a copy to work from, but that is exactly the point. With all the problems noted by the individual herself, how can she even say, with such libelous certainty:

From: OPie: I was also one of those who transcribed the original sessions. And, yes, when they were published on the website they had been changed. One was changed considerably. She had been charged with this by others before, and until I saw it happen first-hand, I didn’t believe it was true. I figured she changed punctuation or corrected things, but that’s not what happened with the sessions I transcribed. [...]

Now the problem with this is that if she changed the two that I transcribed, how many more of the sessions were tampered with? If you find one piece of work that’s bogus, how can you trust the rest? [...]

Notice how the first sentence above even implies that she has done more than two sessions… and how she does not even acknowledge the many problems she had with the tapes and with hearing, and so on.

Well, just to make the point, I am going to put her original transcripts side by side with the corrected ones here, and will have further comments to make after the reader has had a chance to judge for themselves: (Note that I will remove names of the “innocent” in BOTH transcripts below)

File as transcribed by Linda D 

8/7/2001 Laura, Ark

Q: Hello, hello, hello. Is anyone there?

A: Hello.

Q: You’re supposed to watch, just to see what it does. (A) I will. Do you have a name? Tell us your name.

A: Daohha.

Q: Did you ever have a body of your own?

A: No.

Q: Are you here to … what are you here for?

A: Cassiopaea.

Q: Are you the 6th density beings who transmit through Cassiopaea?

A: Yes.

Q: I would like to point out that six days have gone by and no money came and, in fact, our world is a disaster. Well, actually our world is not a disaster. It’s a lot cleaner than it was, but we still are confronted with some real issues as to which way to go and what to do next.

A: Money will come.

Q: All right. What was behind … what forces were behind Vincent’s action? Were they simply 4th density manipulation, plus was there any Satanic cult activity behind his activities?

A: No.

 

Q: Was there any … was he, in fact, loaded with attachments, as I saw him in the viewing?

A: Yes.

Q: What was the source of these attachments?

A: Rituals.

Q: All right. What is the motivating factor behind his pushing for me to discover where the “grail” is buried? Was it simply his own desire to discover it?

A: Yes.

Q: Was he programmed to ask this question or to seek this?

A: Yes.

Q: What would have been the consequences if he had been able to squeeze the answer out of me?

A: Death to you.

Q: Sh … was he even remotely aware of that possibility?

A: Yes.

Q: Apparently he wasn’t sufficiently aware of it to really believe it, I would think. He thinks it’s still a game.

A: Yes.

Q: He doesn’t really understand how serious it is, that if you really get close to the secret, you die.

A: Yes. Nor have you.

Q: So that’s why you guys don’t answer a lot of questions.

A: Yes.

Q: Well, that’s a good enough reason, I reckon – to keep us alive.

A: Offee talking (check tape)

Q: What? (A) Who gave the orders … (L) Who gave the orders to Vincent? (A) Who is behind … OK, we know he was programmed.

A: 4th density.

Q: Let me ask this, since he was programmed, and that with the information he wanted to obtain, is it in fact true that 4th density STS either doesn’t know or cannot access this secret?

A: Yes. L: And they are as anxious for it to be discovered … in fact, they are the MOST anxious …

A: Yes.

Q: Hmm. Well, let’s get back to the money situation. I know you say money will come. It needs to come fairly soon.

A: Each question says the same thing.

Q: (A) It doesn’t make any sense. (L) Each question says the same thing. In other words, money will come. Is that it?

A: Yes.

Q: Are we supposed to continue trying to seek ways and means? I mean, that seems to be a natural and proper thing to do.

A: Yes.

Q: I mean, putting energy out seems to be like … we’ve got to do it. I mean, if you just sit there and think, “Oh, I don’t have to do anything and money will come; that’s not a good way to be.

A: Yes.

Q: Do you have any hints or specific areas that we could put our effort out?

A: Basic research lot field.

Q: Doesn’t make a lot of sense. Basic research lot field. (A) Basic research

A: Others propose

Q: Others propose, I guess, right? Propose it to others .. Propose it to others?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) Who? (L) Well …Let me ask while I’ve got you here this silly question B** has got going on. Don’t you laugh, honey. What he is saying is … B*** is reading some material that suggests that this planet is a breeding ground for aliens, and the life cycle of the aliens, as in the Reptilians or whatever, may mimic something, such as a preying mantis. It also alludes to the suggestion that the underground of the earth is kind of a dormant stage for the female, and it is the male that is returning or that does return at the end of each epoch, and that the focus of this appears to be the great pyramid, and that if we move to STO – it doesn’t say those words but it’s the same – much terror can be avoided as the return of the male dragon will die for love for the female. Okay. Is the earth a breeding round for some kind of aliens as suggested in this passage?

A: No.

Q: Hmm. So this stuff that this guy has made up about this is like right out of his darkest nightmares. I mean the worst possible spin that could be put on what he has come up with. It’s already bad enough. So Bruce really ought to forget this and just get some sleep at night, huh?

A: Yes.

Q: What is the source of this type of material? I mean, what kind of energy is behind it?

A: STS mind control signal.

Q: What is it designed to do?

A: Reach those that are programmed to receive.

Q: Let me ask you this – If some of these STS programming signals that are going out … I mean, I’m assuming that some of them come from 3rd density. Is that correct?

A: Yes.

Q: Do they actually have, like, some place on the planet where these guys read science fiction books and get these really crazy theories and stories that they put together with sort of fiendish glee, and then convert them via computer into the programming code that gets beamed out into people’s heads, while they sit there and fall down on the floor laughing at what they have just done?

A: Yes.

Q: (Chuckling) That’s sick. (A): Why? Wouldn’t you do it if you had the … (L) If I had the facility and abilities and I was sick like that … if I was sick like that, sure. I mean, just take a whole HP Lovecraft novel, convert it into the programming signal and beam it out – and people are saying, “My God, the aliens told me … it’s just like HP Lovecraft said. Oh, my God!” Can you imagine? (A) And it works. (L) Sure does, doesn’t it? (A) And we see what this guy _____ said to us about this _____ (igloo?) What he is saying, I think is true … they have these capabilities … (L) Yeh. (A) Inducing these states, you know, and it’s coming, and there will be massive programming. (L) Yup. (A) And it’s coming pretty soon. (L) What are Ophanic intelligences, as Vincent understands them?

A: 4D STS.

Q: Hmm. Well. We recently had a major attack from a bunch of Jews who were claiming that we were anti-Semitic because we didn’t believe their religion, but we did believe they were special, which was king of a weird twist to that whole thing. Ummm … is this something that we should just back … I mean, you don’t normally advise, but you know, I’ve been having thoughts about just simply pulling the material down off the site completely and just leaving the subject behind. This is what I’ve been thinking, and I would like to know if the future looks brighter with respect to ourselves if I do that.

A: Yes.

Q: I mean, I know it’s courageous and all that, but it’s not necessary. I mean, what’s said is said on the site. (A) I had another idea, which I was checking, and we can put one or two pages out and put it on a different website that we have, which is not linked … not associated with Cassiopaea in any way, and we can just … instead of being on Cassiopaea, these pages will be on the _______ website, and you can always read the pages by clicking, go in there, then come back, and it would give us a kind of legal advantage, so that in case someone decides to attack, it would be not on Cassiopaea pages. (L) Yeah, well, I think that discretion at this point is probably the better part of valor. (A) What do you mean “discretion”? (L) In other words, not telling everything you know. (A) Right. (L), But,

A: Good idea. L: Well, the thing was, I put it up …

A: Jews will be destroyed anyway. L: Well, that’s not friendly. So, it is better to pull it all down and leave them alone, let them fry in their own juices and do their own stupid things, and let them destroy themselves; because there’s nothing anybody can do anyway? (A) Right. (L) I mean, there’s no point in trying to … (A) No gain. (L) There’s no gain for us, no gain for them, and …

A: Yes.

Q: Well, anyway. Well, that’s pretty depressing. Have you got any questions about what you’re working on that you were going to ask? I mean, we need to ask questions to groove or something. (A) Um-m. (L) I mean, just … (A) Um hm. (L) I don’t really have any. We need to keep the … need to work this. (A) The thinking … (L) Yeah. (A) Okay, we what you do … okay, I don’t have today questions. I didn’t do my homework. We were so busy with this _________ and so on. So, okay, we should continue ________. So we will be coming back. (L) Yeah, I need to work.

A: Yes. Root is strong because of prior grooving.

Q: Okay. And we answered Bruce’s question, and I can’t think of any particular thing, and I think I’ll just go in and take that page down … do it tonight. The whole Jewish thing.

A: Yes.

Q: All right then. Thank you very much. And, unless you have something that you know we need to know, or any questions that should have been asked that we haven’t asked … (A) Right. (L) That’s important now, please tell us.

A: Hold on to me … (no further recording, though it is not the end of the tape)

Transcript as corrected by Laura8/7/2001 Laura, Ark 

Q: Hello, hello, hello. Is anyone there?

A: Hello.

Q: You’re supposed to watch, just to see what it does. (A) I will. Do you have a name? Tell us your name.

A: Daohha.

Q: Did you ever have a body of your own?

A: No.

Q: What are you here for?

A: Cassiopaea.

Q: Are you the 6th density beings who transmit through Cassiopaea?

A: Yes.

Q: I would like to point out that six days have gone by and no money came and, in fact, our world is a disaster. Well, actually our world is not a disaster. It’s a lot cleaner than it was, but we still are confronted with some real issues as to which way to go and what to do next.

A: Money will come.

Q: All right. What was behind … what forces were behind Vincent’s [Bridges] action? Were they simply 4th density manipulation?

A: Close.

Q: Was there any Satanic cult activity behind his activities?

A: No.

Q: Was there any … was he, in fact, loaded with attachments, as I saw him in the viewing?

A: Yes.

Q: What was the source of these attachments?

A: Rituals.

Q: All right. What is the motivating factor behind his pushing for me to discover where the “grail” is buried? Was it simply his own desire to discover it?

A: Yes.

Q: Was he programmed to ask this question or to seek this?

A: Yes.

Q: What would have been the consequences if he had been able to squeeze the answer out of me?

A: Death to you.

Q: Sh … was he even remotely aware of that possibility?

A: Yes.

Q: Apparently he wasn’t sufficiently aware of it to really believe it, I would think. He thinks it’s still a game.

A: Yes.

Q: He doesn’t really understand how serious it is, that if you really get close to the secret, you die.

A: Yes. Nor have you.

Q: So that’s why you guys don’t answer a lot of questions?

A: Yes.

Q: Well, that’s a good enough reason, I reckon – to keep us alive. (A to L) Who gave the orders … (L) Who gave the orders to Vincent? (A) Who is behind … We know he was programmed. 4th density? (L) Let me ask this, since he was programmed, and that was the information he wanted to obtain, is it in fact true that 4th density STS either doesn’t know or cannot access this secret?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And they are as anxious for it to be discovered … in fact, they are the MOST anxious?

A: Yes.

Q: Hmm. Well, let’s get back to the money situation. I know you say money will come. Um. It needs to come fairly soon.

A: Each question says the same thing.

Q: (A) That doesn’t make any sense. (L) “Each question says the same thing.” In other words, money will come. Is that it?

A: Yes.

Q: So, we’re just supposed to keep doing what we think is right and not worry? That’s crazy.

A: Yes.

Q: Are we supposed to continue trying to seek ways and means? I mean, that seems to be a natural and proper thing to do.

A: Yes.

Q: I mean, putting energy out seems to be like … we’ve got to do it. I mean, if you just sit there and think, “Oh, I don’t have to do anything and money will come; that’s not a good way to be.

A: Yes.

Q: Do you have any hints or specific areas that we could put our effort out?

A: Basic research lot field.

Q: Doesn’t make a lot of sense. (A) Basic research?

A: Yes. Others propose

Q: I guess propose it to others?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well. (A) We can put an announcement on the web that we are looking for a foundation.

A: Yes.

Q: (L)Let me ask while I’ve got you here, some questions from a member of our group. He is reading some material that suggests that this planet is a breeding ground for aliens, and the life cycle of the aliens, as in the Reptilians or whatever, may mimic something, such as a preying mantis. It also alludes to the suggestion that the underground of the earth is kind of a dormant stage for the female, and it is the male that is returning or that does return at the end of each epoch, and that the focus of this appears to be the great pyramid, and that if we move to STO – it doesn’t say those words but it’s the same – much terror can be avoided, as the return of the male dragon will die for love for the female nymph. Okay. Is the earth a breeding round for some kind of aliens as suggested in this passage?

A: No.

Q: Hmm. So this stuff that this guy has made up about this is like right out of his darkest nightmares? I mean the worst possible spin that could be put on this? It’s already bad enough. So we really ought to forget this and just get some sleep at night, huh?

A: Yes.

Q: What is the source of this type of material? I mean, what kind of energy is behind it?

A: STS mind control signal.

Q: What is it designed to do?

A: Reach those that are programmed to receive.

Q: (L) Let me ask you this – If some of these STS programming signals that are going out … I mean, I’m assuming that some of them come from 3rd density. Is that correct?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they actually have, like, some place on the planet where these guys read science fiction books and get these really crazy theories and stories that they put together with sort of fiendish glee, and then convert them via computer into the programming code that gets beamed out into people’s heads, while they sit there and just – you know – fall down on the floor laughing at what they have just done? I mean, is this possibly something that is going on [meaning in secret mind control experiments]?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) That’s sick! (A): Why? Wouldn’t you do it if you had the opportunity? (L) If I had the facility and abilities and I was sick like that? IF I was sick like that, sure. I mean, just take a whole HP Lovecraft novel, convert it into the programming signal and beam it out – and people are saying, “My God, the aliens told me … it’s just like HP Lovecraft said. Oh, my God!” Can you imagine? (A) And it works. (L) Sure does, doesn’t it? (A) And we see what this guy RC is telling us about this egroup, and it is… What he is telling us, I think is true … they have these capabilities … [Referring to mind control signals being utilized in rock music, rock concerts, etc] (L) Yeah. (A) Inducing these states, and it’s coming, and there will be massive programming! (L) Yup. (A) And it’s coming pretty soon. (L) What are Ophanic intelligences, as Vincent [Bridges] understands them? The ones he calls upon with his 30 calls to the aethyrs?

A: 4D STS.

Q: Hmm. Well. We recently had a major attack from a bunch of Jews who were claiming that we were anti-Semitic because we didn’t believe their religion, but we did believe they were special, which was kind of a weird twist to that whole thing. Ummm … is this something that we should just back – I mean, you don’t normally advise, but you know, I’ve been having thoughts about just simply pulling the material down off the site completely and just leaving the subject matter alone. This is what I’ve been thinking, and I would like to know if the future looks brighter with respect to ourselves if I do that.

A: Yes.

Q: I mean, I know it’s courageous and all that, but it’s not necessary. I mean, what’s said is said on the site. (A) I had another idea, which I was checking, and we can put one or two pages out and put it on a different website that we have, which is not linked – not associated with Cassiopaea in any way – and we can just – instead of being on Cassiopaea, these pages will be on a different website. And you can always read the pages by clicking, going there, then come back, and it would give us a kind of legal advantage, so that in case someone decides to attack, it would be not on Cassiopaea pages. (L) Yeah, well, I think that discretion at this point is probably the better part of valor. (A) What do you mean “discretion”? (L) In other words, not telling everything you know. (A) Right.

A: Good idea.

Q: (L) Well, the thing was, I put it up … [unfinished remark was "to help" because of my deep sympathy for the Jews... but the C's cut in before I finished]

A: Jews will be destroyed anyway.

Q: (L) Well, that’s NOT friendly! So, it is better to pull it all down and leave them alone, let them fry in their own juices and do their own stupid things, and let them destroy themselves; because there’s nothing anybody can do anyway? (A) Right. (L) I mean, there’s no point in trying to … (A) No gain. (L) There’s no gain for us, no gain for them, and nothing we can do.

A: Yes.

Q: Well, anyway… That’s pretty depressing. (to Ark) Have you got any questions about what you’re working on that you were going to ask? I mean, we need to ask questions to groove or something. (A) Um-m. (L) I mean, just … (A) Um hm. (L) I don’t really have any. We need to keep the … need to work this. (A) The thinking … (L) Yeah. (A) Okay, we what we will do … I don’t have today questions. I didn’t do my homework. We were so busy with these other matters and so on. So, okay, we should continue another night. So we will be coming back. (L) Yeah, I need to work.

A: Yes. Root is strong because of prior grooving.

Q: Okay. And we answered B’s question, and I can’t think of any particular thing. And I think I’ll just go in and take that page down … do it tonight. The whole Jewish thing.

A: Yes.

Q: All right then. Thank you very much. And, unless you have something that you know we need to know, or any questions that should have been asked that we haven’t asked … (A) Right. (L) That’s important now, please tell us.

A: Hold on to me.

End of Session

File as Transcribed by Linda DAugust 10, 2001 Ark, Laura 

Q: Hello?

A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening?

A: Viaggmoi.

Q: And where do you transmit through?

A: Cassiopaea.

Q: I would like to ask if we can ask some questions about Vincent Bridges and Jay Weidner.

A: Yes.

Q: What are their intentions toward us?

A: Bad.

Q: What are their plans?

A: Sipprormt (A) What? What? It doesn’t make sense. (L) It wasn’t a word? What are their plans? Q: Sippoutgag. (A) What? What do you … (L) Sip? Pout? Gag? (A) What is sip? (L) Sip means to take a drink of something – sip something. Sip? Out? Gag? What are they going to sip?

A: Knowledge.

Q: Oh, they took a sip of knowledge – or they’re going to take a sip of knowledge?

A: Yes.

Q: And this sip of knowledge is going to make them pout and gag? (A) What is pout? (L) To just … (shows physically). Who are they going to get this sip of knowledge from that is going to make them pout and gag?

A: Lawyer.

Q: In other words, they’re going to find they do not have a leg to stand on?

A: Yes.

Q: Well, are Vincent and Jay … or is one … is Vincent … I think I asked this already, didn’t I? Is he really connected to these Satanic people?

A: Yes.

Q: Was he connected to them close to the inner circle?

A: No.

Q: Is he really an initiated Sufi?

A: No. Karma is coming.

Q: Do we have anything to be concerned about where they are concerned?

A: No.

Q: Do we need to take any further actions like putting more information on the website, any other things than what we are currently doing or have already done?

A: Yes.

Q: What?

A: Some more web info. (A) What? Some more what? (L) Web info. (A) Oh. (L) Should I put on the Perseus site what we have discovered about Vincent? A report on his claim to fame?

A: No.

Q: What, in specific, on the web?

A: Files make him (L) Files make him what? A: Sick. Move to gag.

Q: In other words, I should put something else that would drive him to go to an attorney? Make him madder?

A: Yes.

Q: Should I post Jay Weidner’s letter from this morning?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) What’s the point? (L) To make him go to an attorney? I don’t know. What’s the point – I don’t get it? (A) What’s the point of making him go to an attorney? (L) Well, an attorney may tell them that they are crossing dangerously into the lines of being subject to a lawsuit themselves.

A: Yes.

Q: And I could also post Vincent’s article or the letter he wrote himself about slander and libel.

A: Yes.

Q: Well, I don’t like the idea of doing any of those things. They make me feel yucky. So why are you telling me to do them?

A: How do you think Vincent will feel?

Q: Well, he’ll obviously feel more yucky that I will. ** Nothing’s bad, seeing as I feel he lied. See if they send any more blasts in the morning. Hmmm…. (A) I don’t think they said … if they decided to organize a conference, OK, they are somehow … will be in touch with these other people. And that takes ** to organize. (L) They’re not organizing anything. Did you notice them organizing anything at all so far? They have no idea what they’re doing. All they’re doing is running a con job. They’re taking people’s money. That’s all they’re doing. (A) Well, for me, it’s hard to believe …. (L) That’s all they’re doing. Is all this just a con job to put themselves in a position to take people’s money?

A: In part.

Q: Well, I just can’t imagine what was going through that man’s mind when he wrote that E-mail. I mean, that man is like … I mean, I simply can’t conceive of the type of consciousness that could occupy a physical body that could write that type of an E-mail. You know, it passeth my understanding.

A: STS love.

Q: Service to Self love. Well, boy, he must be exploding on himself, or imploding or whatever. OK. Is Infinity Publishing a … I don’t know how to ask this question. We found this place called Infinity Publishing, where it’s like print-on-demand, you know, have total control of the product, blah, blah, blah, and we think this is a pretty good way to go. Should we be focusing on this book deal right now, since we can do it this way, since we’ve been working on it. Should we continue to push on this or should we just push away and do something else?

A: Do it now!!!!

Q: Are we going to get any decent sales for our books?

A: Yes!!!!

Q: Are we going to be able to survive this flame war and attack from Vincent and Jay Weidner?

A: No.

Q: Why not?

A: They will open the door to fame.

Q: What? How can that be possible? Huh? (A) From slandering us?

A: No, but have contacts who will be interested.

Q: (A) They have … who? (L) They have contacts that will be interested. That’s weird. Well, what do you want to ask them? Anything in particular? Is B*** an STS agent?

A: No.

Q: Do we have an STS nasty agent on our list?

A: Yes.

Q: How many?

A: Two.

Q: Have they been there a long time or are they recent?

A: One each.

Q: (A) One what? (L) One each. One has been there a long time and one recent. Is anyone on the list forwarding the list mail to Vincent?

A: No.

Q: I didn’t think so. They’re all pretty **. (A) There are two different agents? (L) Yeah. Is J** R** involved in Satanism?

A: No.

Q: Who killed Jon Benet Ramsey? (Long wait, then laughter) (L) They won’t answer that … thought I’d slip that one in real quick. Well, was J** R** involved with that, as Vincent suggests?

A: Close.

Q: Do you mean he was close to it or involved with it?

A: Close to it.

Q: Was he involved with it in the sense of something that brought it about?

A: No.

Q: Hmmm. Let me see here. Let me think. Any questions you want to ask? There was something I was thinking about earlier today that I wanted to ask. Oh, so many questions I want to ask. I think about them, then when I sit in here, my mind goes completely blank. Well, do you have any messages for us tonight? Is there anything that we should be asking that we haven’t asked? Something around the corner that we don’t see that we ought to see, because we’re both so tired – we’ve been working so hard all day. Cut us some slack here. Consider it asked (long pause). Is B** an agent?

A: No.

Q: (Laughing) Who would I think of next? (A) ** check tape or notes. Couldn’t hear tape. (L) Oh, is M** an agent?

A: Yes.

Q: Is T** an agent?

A: No.

Q: Hmmm. (A) I think that it is good to have an agent, because if you have an agent, you are kind of … you know … (L) Yes. And they don’t **, and if the one we’ve got isn’t sending stuff out to Vincent, we’ll just keep him. (A) Right. Because ** agent ** we don’t know who that agent .. OK? (L) What happened to P**, by the way? God, she went off the deep end. (A) She .. the second time, right? (L) Yeah.

A: Racial obsession!

Q: (A) What? What? (L) Racial obsession. (A) What does that mean? (L) Well, she’s obsessed with this Nordic business. (A) Oh. (L) You know, she’s blonde and blue-eyed and she’s special – she’s chosen. (A) Oh. (L) She’s the one. (A) OK. And if she’s the one, and she’s not appreciated as the one … (L) She’s going to trash anyone who doesn’t appreciate her. Yes, that’s pretty much what S** was saying. P** has this mission and … (A) Um-hmm. (L) And she’s got to figure out what this mission is, and it’s to save our buns, I guess. Are we supposed to build some sort of technological device to take us into 4th density?

A: Possibly.

Q: Is the building of them that will do it or the devices themselves? I have a feeling it’s the building and the knowledge that’s going to do it.

A: Yes.

Q: Acquiring the knowledge to be able to do it puts you there. Awareness binds you to the reality. And I was reading this story by Plato about the cave today, and this whole thing is just so amazing. (A) What cave? (L) Plato’s Cave, you know, you know … the shadows on the wall and everything, and he really said some interesting things there – a completely analogy of 4th density, all right there … (A) Well, in fact, when the C;’s mention Rodin **, whatever they are. (L) Yeah .. (A) And ** (check tape). (L) Well, I saw this thing in the mirror, this gadget that shot out this beam or whatever, was that the true, you know, image of some kind of a time machine or time-transiting device, or was that something that Vincent was projecting into my mind?

A: Good catch.

Q: Yeah, when I saw that picture on his webpage, I knew he’d been projecting that. He was sitting there focusing on it so I would see it. I told you, I showed it to you, didn’t I? That was what I saw, that twisted up figure 8 thing. I couldn’t figure it out, what in the world it was. Is there an object buried in France I’m supposed to find?

A: Yes.

Q: Are we doing to find it?

A: Yes.

Q: Can you tell us what year we’ll be finding it.

A: Two (tape ended and was blank for some time) Then picked back up:

A: Holy grail.

Q: What is the holy grail? (Tape noise gets very, very loud here; can’t hear any voices)

Q: Huh. I don’t know if they were drawing something or just playing. Guess they’re not going to answer that one. Hmmm. Well, anything you want to ask? (A) Yes. It’s pretty fun to be talking, so we’re talking … it’s fun. So my question is, first, I want to know, should I continue friendship with this R** guy?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) Is it a good idea to write papers with him?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) All right.

A: He is knowledgeable in diverse ways. He will help you.

Q: (L) He doesn’t seem so knowledgeable right now, does he? (A) Well, he does more practical things. He has some things that I don’t know, but is able to control ** his mathematics. (L) OK. (A) And this is what I can do. Okay? (** Ark apparently asks question, but the background noise drowns it out).

A: Yes.

Q: (A) In other words, is that a kind of **? Oh, but I want to know why, because I have no idea why ** (L) Why the I Ching was so dead set against Motorola, boy …

A: Give it time and you will see.

Q: (L) Give it time and you will see. So … well, do we have any big explosions coming up in Israel? Do we have any volcanoes going off or any earthquakes or anything of real significance going on on the planet here?

A: The solar activity is slowing down.

Q: So I guess that kind of means no. Are we doing to get hit by a comet or an asteroid? (A) When? (L) When what? When are we going to get hit by a comet or an asteroid? They won’t tell us that. (A) Why not?

A: Knowledge does protect.

Q: (A) What? (L) Knowledge does protect. Well, is Vincent doing any of his workings to try to harm us? I mean, is he out there with his robes on, and drawing his pentagrams, and chanting, and calling to the Ophanic intelligences to slam lightning and thunder down upon our heads?

A: Close.

Q: Is he getting frustrated that it isn’t working?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) I want to know what is the effect of his relation to Lady Sekhmet? (L) What do you mean? (A) His wife. (L) Oh, you’re wondering how he’s getting along with her right now after he did are this stuff? Is she beginning to see through him in any way?

A: Yes.

Q: Is she furious with him for being a jerk (laughter)?

A: Yes.

Q: Was he deliberately trying to put the love bite on T**?

A: Yes.

Q: What were his motives?

A: Control.

Q: Well, I just … how many people are they going to have attend their conference?

A: 26.

Q: 26? (Laughter). All right. So .. yes, we’re sleepy

Tape stopped recording – nothing on Side 2, though it was indicated on the tape.

Transcript as Corrected by LauraAugust 10, 2001 Ark, Laura 

Q: Hello?

A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening?

A: Viaggmor.

Q: And where do you transmit through?

A: Cassiopaea.

Q: I would like to ask if we can ask some questions about Vincent Bridges and Jay Weidner.

A: Yes.

Q: What are their intentions toward us?

A: Bad.

Q: What are their plans?

A: Sip prormt

Q: (A) What? What? It doesn’t make sense. (L) That wasn’t a word. What are their plans?

A: Sip pout gag.

Q: (A) What? What do you … (L) Sip? Pout? Gag? (A) What is sip? (L) Sip means to take a drink of something – sip something. Sip? Out? Gag? What are they going to sip?

A: Knowledge.

Q: Oh, they took a sip of knowledge – or they’re going to take a sip of knowledge?

A: Yes.

Q: And this sip of knowledge is going to make them pout and gag? (A) What is pout? (L) To just … (demonstrates). Who are they going to get this sip of knowledge from that is going to make them pout and gag?

A: Lawyer.

Q: In other words, they’re going to find they do not have a leg to stand on?

A: Yes.

Q: Well, is Vincent really connected to these Satanic people?

A: Yes.

Q: Is he connected to them close to the inner circle?

A: No.

Q: Is he really an initiated Sufi?

A: No. Karma is coming.

Q: Do we have anything to be concerned about where they are concerned?

A: No.

Q: Do we need to take any further actions like putting more information on the website, any other things than what we are currently doing or have already done?

A: Yes.

Q: What?

A: Some more web info.

Q: (L) Should I put on the Perseus site what we have discovered about Vincent? A report on his claim to fame?

A: No.

Q: What, in specific, on the web?

A: Files make him sick move to gag.

Q: (L) In other words, I should put something else that would drive him to go to an attorney? Make him madder?

A: Yes.

Q: Should I post Jay Weidner’s letter from this morning?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) What’s the point? (L) To make him go to an attorney? I don’t know. What’s the point – I don’t get it? (A) What’s the point of making them go to an attorney? (L) Well, an attorney may tell them that they are crossing dangerously close over the lines of being subject to a lawsuit themselves.

A: Yes.

Q: And I could also post Vincent’s article or the letter he wrote himself about slander and libel.

A: Yes.

Q: Well, I don’t like the idea of doing any of those things. They make me feel yucky. So why are you telling me to do them?

A: How do you think Vincent will feel?

Q: Well, he’ll obviously feel more yucky that I will. I’ll think about it and see how I feel in the morning. See if they send any more blasts in the morning. (A) I think they said they will. If they decided to organize a conference, they will be in touch with these other people. And it takes their energy to organize. (L) They’re not organizing anything. Did you ever notice them organizing anything at all so far? They have no idea what they’re doing. All they’re doing is running a con-job. They’re taking people’s money. That’s all they’re doing. (A) Well, for me, it’s hard to believe. (L) That’s all they’re doing. Is all this just a con job to put themselves in a position to take people’s money?

A: In part.

Q: Well, I just can’t imagine what was going through that man’s mind when he wrote that E-mail. I mean, that man is like … I mean, I simply can’t conceive of the type of consciousness that could occupy a physical body that could write that type of an E-mail. You know, it passes my understanding.

A: STS love.

Q: Service to Self love. Well, boy, he must be exploding on himself, or imploding or whatever. OK. Is Infinity Publishing a … I don’t know how to ask this question. We found this place called Infinity Publishing, where it’s like print-on-demand. We’ll have total control of the product, and we think this is a pretty good way to go. Should we be focusing on this book deal right now, since we can do it this way, since we’ve been working on it. Should we continue to push on this or should we just back away and do something else?

A: Do it now!!!!

Q: Are we going to get any decent sales for our books?

A: Yes!!!!

Q: Are we going to be able to survive this flame war and attack from Vincent and Jay Weidner?

A: No.

Q: Why not?

A: They will open the door to fame.

Q: What?! HOW can that be possible? Huh? (A) From slandering us?!

A: No, but have contacts who will be interested.

Q: (A) They have … who? (L) They have contacts that will be interested. That’s weird. Well, what do you want to ask them? Anything in particular? Is B** an STS agent [as suggested by T** B** and Vincent Bridges]?

A: No.

Q: Do we have an STS nasty agent on our list?

A: Yes.

Q: How many?

A: Two.

Q: Have they been there a long time or are they recent?

A: One each.

Q: (A) One what? (L) One each. One has been there a long time and one recent. Is anyone on the list forwarding the list mail to Vincent?

A: No.

Q: I didn’t think so. They’re all pretty good. (A) There are two different agents? (L) Yeah. Is J** R** involved in Satanism [as claimed by Vincent Bridges]?

A: No.

Q: Who killed Jon Benet Ramsey? (Long wait, then laughter) (L) They won’t answer that … thought I’d slip that one in real quick. Well, was J** R** involved with that, as Vincent suggests?

A: Close.

Q: Do you mean he was close to it or involved with it?

A: Close to it.

Q: Was he involved with it in the sense of something that brought it about?

A: No.

Q: (L to A)Any questions you want to ask? There was something I was thinking about earlier today that I wanted to ask. Oh, so many questions I want to ask. I think about them, then when I sit in here, my mind goes completely blank. Well, do you have any messages for us tonight? Is there anything that we should be asking that we haven’t asked? Something around the corner that we don’t see that we ought to see? Because we’re both so tired – we’ve been working so hard all day. Cut us some slack here. Consider it asked (long pause). Is B** an agent?

A: No. Q: (L) Oh, is M** an agent?

A: Yes.

Q: Is T** an agent?

A: No.

Q: A) I think that it is good to have an agent. Because if you have an agent, you kind of know. (L) And they don’t send another one in. And if the one we’ve got isn’t sending stuff out to Vincent, we’ll just keep him. (A) Right. Because you see, an agent will know who’s an agent. (L) What happened to P**, by the way? God, she went off the deep end! (A) She did it the second time, right? (L) Yeah.

A: Racial obsession!

Q: (A) What? What? (L) Racial obsession. (A) What does that mean? (L) Well, she’s obsessed with this Nordic business. (A) Oh. (L) You know, she’s blonde and blue-eyed and she’s special – she’s chosen! (A) Oh. (L) She’s the one! (A) OK. And if she’s the one, and if she’s not appreciated as the one … (L) She’s going to trash anybody who doesn’t appreciate her. Yes, that’s pretty much what S** was saying. P** has this mission and she’s got to figure out what this mission is, and it’s to save our buns, I guess. Are we supposed to build some sort of technological device to take us into 4th density?

A: Possibly.

Q: Is it going to be the building of them that will do it, or the devices themselves? I have a feeling it’s the building and the knowledge that’s going to do it.

A: Yes.

Q: Acquiring the knowledge to be able to do it puts you there. Awareness binds you to the reality. And I was reading this story by Plato about the cave today, and this whole thing is just so amazing. (A) What cave? (L) Plato’s Cave, you know. You know,the shadows on the wall and everything. And he really said some interesting things there – a completely analogy of 4th density. All right then … (A) Well, in fact, when Tony Smith mentions Rodin coils – whatever they are – and toroidal structures – they will probaly be important at some point. (L) Yeah .. (L) When, I saw this thing in the mirror, this gadget that shot out this beam or whatever, was that the true image of some kind of a time machine or time-transiting device, or was that something that Vincent was projecting into my mind?

A: Good catch.

Q: Yeah, when I saw that picture on his webpage, I knew he’d been projecting that. He was sitting there focusing on it so I would see it. I told you, I showed it to you, didn’t I? That was what I saw, that twisted up figure 8 thing. [laughter] I couldn’t figure it out, what in the world it was. Is there an object buried in France I’m supposed to find?

A: Yes.

Q: Are we going to find it?

A: Yes.

Q: Can you tell us what year we’ll be finding it.

A: Two (tape ended and was blank for some time then picked back up with a segment of what sounded like a heartbeat)

Q: What is the object?

A: Holy grail.

Q: What is the holy grail?

[Tape noise gets very, very loud here. Planchette was spinning around and drawing figures.]

Q: Huh. I don’t know if they were drawing something or just playing. Guess they’re not going to answer that one. Well, anything you want to ask? (A) Yes. It’s pretty fun to be talking, so we’re talking … it’s fun. So my question is, first, I want to know, should I continue friendship with this R*** guy?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) Is it a good idea to write papers with him?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) All right.

A: He is knowledgeable in diverse ways. He will help you.

Q: (L) He doesn’t seem so knowledgeable right now, does he? (A) Well, in these more practical things, he has some things that I don’t know. But he is not able to control his mathematics. And this is what I can do. But he is doing things that are practical.

A: Yes.

Q: (A) In other words, they are kind of important? Oh, but I want to know why, because I have no idea why [our question about] contacting Motorola was bad? (L) Why the I Ching was so dead set against Motorola, boy … [laughter]

A: Give it time and you will see.

Q: (L) Give it time and you will see. So … well, do we have any big explosions coming up in Israel? Do we have any volcanoes going off or any earthquakes or anything of real significance going on on the planet here?

A: The solar activity is slowing down.

Q: So I guess that kind of means no. Are we doing to get hit by a comet or an asteroid? (A) When? (L) When what? When are we going to get hit by a comet or an asteroid? (L to A) They won’t tell us that! (A) Why not?

A: Soon!

Q: Yeah, well soon to you guys could be in the next millennium! [laughter] (A) Soon! “Money will come soon!” (L) Yeah! What exactly do you guys mean by “soon?” (A) Eight days? Six days? They are having problems with time! [Laughter.]

A: Money will come very soon!!

Q: Do we need to play the lottery for that? [Laughter.] (A) We know what to do. We are not sure about putting these things on the web. Probably we can put something. (L) Yeah. I think we ought to just drive him over the edge. Let’s push him harder, just for the fun of it. [Laughter.] Knowledge protects, so we will put the knowledge out there.

A: Knowledge does protect.

Q: (L) Well, is Vincent doing any of his “workings” to try to harm us? I mean, is he out there with his robes on, and drawing his pentagrams, and chanting, and calling to the Ophanic intelligences to slam lightning and thunder down upon our heads? A: Close. Q: Is he getting frustrated that it isn’t working?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) I want to know what is the effect of his history on his relation to Lady Sekhmet? (L) What do you mean? (A) His wife. (L) Oh, you’re wondering how he’s getting along with her right now after he did all of this stuff? Is she beginning to see through him in any way?

A: Yes.

Q: Is she furious with him for being a jerk [laughter]?

A: Yes.

Q: Was he deliberately trying to put the love bite on T**?

A: Yes.

Q: What were his motives?

A: Control.

Q: Well, I just … how many people are they going to have attend their conference?

A: 26.

Q: 26? [Laughter]. All right. So…

A: Goodbye.

Q: Yes, we’re sleepy

End of Session

Aside from blocks of text that she simply did not hear, or which may have been unclear on the copied tape, the reader may notice that Linda failed on a couple of occasions to make breaks between the words of the C’s and the words of the individuals present, and also, on a couple of occasions, attributed words of those present to the C s or vice versa. She also included “false starts” which we always exclude. These occur for a number of reasons. The C’s may start out to say one thing and then indicate that it is “cancelled” or *I* may call out the wrong letters and then correct myself on tape saying something like “nope, wrong letter,” or something. This person had actually transcribed those remarks as part of the transcript! Now, it is also true that, in some cases, the C’s will actually correct me, and I have never seen any reason to include all the correcting that goes on in the transcripts. Those people who have actually attended sessions have a very good idea of the problem because they are put on the spot to take notes, to keep up with the C’s, and it is funny and sometimes embarassing to people to realize how poor their listening skills really are. My objective in presenting the transcripts is to make it as easy to read what was conveyed, after determining the accuracy, than to burden the reader with all the “spilled coffee” and mouse droppings, as Ark puts it. It is not, after all, “Holy Writ.”

In any event, again, I had to fix and edit the sessions to make it readable. This is normal in one respect or another. Indeed, in some cases, the questions are clear and well-formed which results in answers that don’t take 20 questions to get to, and no editing at all is required. What was also telling was that even after reading hundreds of sessions, she was unable to reproduce the exact Q: and A: format which was developed for very specific reasons, including ease of global formatting and text searching. Until you have spent years transcribing and working with this material, you have no idea of the difficulties it presents.

Now, no doubt this individual kept copies of what she had transcribed and is perfectly convinced that what she typed was exactly what was on the tape despite the fact that she had explained that she was unable to complete the transcribing (and I WAS able to complete it from the original tape). It was, and at the same time it wasn’t for the reasons given above. It had not been cleaned up, formatted, false starts removed for clarity, and so on. These things are normal parts of the experiment, justified by very good reasons and experience, and great care is always taken to retain the MEANING of the material while, at the same time, making it easy for the audience to follow. Not everyone is experienced in dealing with raw data. Bottom line is, the text is clean, and the MEANING is fully conserved and I have the tape and can prove it. But it was then (and still is) very hard for me to tell someone who has volunteered to do something to help me, that their help is no help at all, that in fact, they have messed up and what they have produced is not only incorrectly formatted (one wonders why THAT was a problem?) but normal rules of transcription were not even utilized. Anyone who has ever done medical transcription (I have) knows what those rules are. But, I didn’t want to upset her the way the other person who had this problem had been upset, so, I just politely thanked her for her efforts, and didn’t ask her to do any more transcribing. That is my fault. I probably should have told her at the time that she did not transcribe either accurately or correctly. But she had so many issues going on in her life that I didn’t want to burden her with any criticism at all since, in spite of the burdens she was carrying, she had been willing to help out.

Now, I would also like to add that, in more recent times, I have been going back over both the original tapes and notes, comparing them, making sure of accuracy of transcription on MY part, and annotating them so as to get rid of as many errors as possible. In some cases, I am adding footnotes that include the “false starts” and corrections, but this text will be for specialists and not the general reader. This is an overwhelming task, to say the least, because of the many hundreds of pages of text, and will take some time. And yes, I HAVE found errors of transcription on my part. There aren’t many, but they do exist, as do typos.

In some cases, we have had to ask the C’s questions about previous sessions to clarify places where both tape and notes are lacking. We aren’t perfect, and sometimes somebody fails to turn the tape recorder back on after a break and entire segments of discussion with the C’s are lost. Usually, we have notes to reconstruct the session, but not always.

There are also cases when the C’s tell me something and instruct me NOT to publish it, that it is for my own information. They also will occasionally make suggestions about how to present certain material that does not include the exact question and answer sequence that was gone through in order for me to learn it.

I have also had to consider the evident fact that, in many cases, the C’s have said things “in code” in earlier stages, that I later, with additional information and training, had to then decode!

Now, having read all of the above, let us look again at what “OPie” has written:

From: OPie: I was also one of those who transcribed the original sessions. And, yes, when they were published on the website they had been changed. One was changed considerably. She had been charged with this by others before, and until I saw it happen first-hand, I didn’t believe it was true. I figured she changed punctuation or corrected things, but that’s not what happened with the sessions I transcribed. [...]

Now the problem with this is that if she changed the two that I transcribed, how many more of the sessions were tampered with? If you find one piece of work that’s bogus, how can you trust the rest? [...]

Aside from the fact that this individual misses a major point that I, as “Myself in the Future,” am perfectly within the protocol of translator when I format the transcripts according to a set criteria, or insert explanatory words. Indeed, the raw data does exist, but it is just that: raw data. What’s more, it is my work, my experiment and, if you like, my higher consciousness. If this individual feels that I am “cheating” when I correct or edit for ease of reading, then she never understood the C’s or the experiment at all.

What seems to be true is that this individual has a sort of flatland view of the C’s experiment and it is very difficult to add depth to it. Certainly, if one is dealing with deliberate falsification of FACTS, there could be an accusation of “bogus.” But let us remember what we are dealing with here: years of work and experimentation, and further refining, research and feedback. We are NOT dealing with Holy Writ. We are dealing with translation of ideas and developing understanding.

The individual in question made a choice, somewhere along the way, that she wanted “Holy Writ” and then goes through some intellectual exertion to justify this a priori “like” or decision. The terminus a quo of this individual is, apparently, a desire to “believe in” something. She wants God to speak, and speak clearly and correctly from the beginning, and if he/she doesn’t, then all is garbage. There is no consideration of the need for expanding the receptacle to accommodate the mysteries, or the necessity for a translator to improve skills and pass that added improvement on to the audience.

The chief problem is that this former member always took her present self as a competent judge of how the universe should be. She does not seem to comprehend that, in an experiment, we are seeking to expand knowledge and it requires work and self-development and networking and input of data from others. Indeed, we have to consider ourselves somewhat competent at something in the beginning, that is, provisionally competent, but then, we must never consider ourselves unconditionally competent for all things. This relates to something that Richard Muller has written about Science:

Scientific training doesn’t keep your senses from fooling you, but a good scientist doesn’t accept the impressions his senses deliver. He uses them as a starting point, and then he checks, and double checks. He looks for additional evidence, and for consistency among his measurements. A scientist differs from other people in that he knows how easily he is fooled, and he goes through procedures to compensate.

This error of taking herself as unconditionally competent to judge actually seems to be the root of her transcribing (and other) issues. She had a priori beliefs and assumptions, and certainly this influenced what she was hearing. It is also interesting that this is the very same factor that has been at the root of those few individuals who have left the cass group, now QFS.

Members of QFS have witnessed this battle between subjectivity and objectivity several times, but, it can be said that, until the individual engages it themselves, they cannot know the “life or death” taste of it. When the emotional reading errors “win” and the individual believe the lie about their unconditional competence, the downhill slide then is rather rapid. Gurdjieff described this phenomenon quite accurately:

“It often happens that, having stopped before some barrier, usually the smallest and the most simple, people turn against the work, against the teacher, and against other members of the group, and accuse them of the very thing that is becoming revealed to them in themselves.

“Sometimes they repent later and blame themselves, then they again blame others, then they repent once more, and so on. But there is nothing that shows up a man better than his attitude towards the work and the teacher after he has left it. Sometimes such tests are arranged intentionally. A man is placed in such a position that he is obliged to leave and he is fully justified in having a grievance either against the teacher or against some other person. And then he is watched to see how he will behave. A decent man will behave decently even if he thinks that he has been treated unjustly or wrongly. But many people in such circumstances show a side of their nature which otherwise they would never show. And at times it is a necessary means for exposing a man’s nature. So long as you are good to a man he is good to you. But what will he be like if you scratch him a little?

What we have seen, again and again, is the barrier of taking oneself too seriously, and the firm belief that one can acutally think with a flawed or damaged reading instrument. What is astonishing is the fact that people, with lifetime track records of failures and unhappiness continue to think that they can actually think and make accurate assessments about the world. They never stop to consider the fact that the wide variance between their dreams of what they COULD have accomplished in their lives, and what they actually have done, could relate in some way to “reading errors,” that they do not read their environment, their reality, accurately. And the only way to fix reading errors is in a group with frequent shocks to the “reading instrument.”

Each person’s circumstances will be specific to them, but the progress up the staircase is always one step at a time, and the first step is this initial struggle to overcome the incredible control of one’s emotional subjectivity so as to be able to see your mechanical self through the eyes of others on the same path in order to get an objective view. This is crucial and is, as Gurdjieff described it: the first initiation. To be able to assess the reading errors of one’s own physical being, is the thing that enables a person to measure themselves, without which ability, they can never measure anything else. The degree of struggle probably has a lot to do with the level of distortion of the centers which depends on many factors, including the person’s fundamental make-up put together with influences from family, society, and so on.

In this sense, the role of what we call “The Mirror,” group input, which is adapted from the work of Boris Mouravieff, is absolutely crucial.

This brings me to Robbie Burns wonderful little poem: “To A Louse On seeing one on a Lady’s bonnet at Church.”

When we read this little masterpiece, we can almost see the louse crawling in the unconscious lady’s bonnet, a lady we are brought to understand gives herself some airs and her illusions of grandeur are crawling with lice.

Burns inserts a bit of social satire in the piece with the exaggerated indignation he uses to describe the contrast between the vulgarity of the louse and the social pretensions of the lady. Burns outrage is actually mockery of the lady herself which we learn when he suddenly drops his pose of disturbed onlooker and names the lady, a simple country girl: Jenny. At this point, his remarks become somewhat pitying because he is telling us something very deep about that part of her that could be real and not pretentious and self-righteous, but how difficult it is to awaken it:

O wad some Pow’r the giftie gie us
To see oursels as others see us
It wad frae monie a blunder free us
An’ foolish notion
What airs in dress an’ gait wad lea’e us
An’ ev’n Devotion.

For those of you who might have trouble translating this dialect, it is simply saying that the gift of being able to see ourselves as others see us would save us from many errors and foolish thoughts and ridiculous or hurtful behavior and we would most certainly cease being devoted to those things that shore up and support our illusions about ourselves.

In recent times, I have pondered this issue of how people react to what they perceive as “criticism” and how some people can “get it” and some people simply cannot. This latter type, as soon as they face the pooled observations of the group which point out to them their “blunders” and “foolish notions” and “airs in dress an’ gait and Devotion,” withdraw immediately into the “right man syndrome.”

They are “right,” everyone else is wrong, their case is special and unique, and that is that.

They will argue and nitpick and so on. And we know what this comes from: the energy of the emotional center has been aroused and usurped by the intellect to fuel its frenzied and frantic need to “self-calm” They MUST stop this “bad feeling” at all costs, and if the only way they can stop it is to make everything and everyone out there “wrong” about them. As Mouravieff wrote:

“When it comes to the other centres, the misuse of the negative parts takes much more insidious forms, which entail more serious consequences for our minds as well as our bodies. That is how the negative part of the intellectual centre nourishes jealousy, afterthoughts, hypocrisy, suspicion, treachery, etc. The negative part of the emotional centre receives all the disagreeable impressions and serves as a vehicle for negative emotions, for which the keyboard is very large, ranging from melancholy to hate. We shall have occasion to go deeper into the problem of negative emotions. [Such emotion] represents one of the major obstacles to esoteric evolution.”

What seems to be so is that it is generally individuals who have been “disenfranchised” or who feel helpless and at the mercy of the forces of life – whether they manifest through other people or random events – are those who are most likely to erect such barriers against negative emotions. They feel acutely their own inability to have an effect in the world, and they turn their creativity inward to create and maintain their illusions, their “blunders” and “foolish notions” and “airs in dress an’ gait and Devotion.”

Self-calming illusions thrive on certain mechanical characteristics of human beings. The first characteristic is “absolute certainty.” In this sense, it is a sort of terminal consciousness in which development is stopped because real growth and development includes, of necessity, uncertainty and risk.

The gift of being able to see ourselves as others see us would save us from many errors and foolish thoughts and ridiculous behavior , and we would most certainly cease being devoted to those things that shore up and support our illusions about ourselves. Gurdjieff discussed the problem with some specificity in Ouspensky’s “In Search of The Miraculous”:

Only two people dropped off who, exactly as though through some kind of magic as it seemed to us, suddenly ceased to understand anything and saw in everything that G. said misunderstanding on his part, and, on the part of the rest, a lack of, sympathy and feeling. This attitude, at first mistrustful and suspicious and then openly hostile to almost all of us, coming from nobody knew where and full of strange and quite unexpected accusations, astonished us very much.

“We made everything a secret”; we failed to tell them what G. had spoken of in their absence. We told tales about them to G., trying to make him distrust them. We recounted to him all talks with them, leading him constantly into error by distorting all the facts and striving to present everything in a false light. We had given G. wrong impressions about them, making him see everything far from as it was.

At the same time G. himself had “completely changed,” had become altogether different from what he used to be before, had become harsh, requiring, had lost all feeling and all interest for individual people, had ceased to demand the truth from people; that he preferred to have round him people such as were afraid to tell him the truth, who were hypocrites, who threw flowers at one another and at the same time spied on the others.

We were amazed at all these and similar talks. They brought with them immediately a kind of entirely new atmosphere which up to this time we had not had. And it was particularly strange because precisely at this time most of us were in a very emotional state and were particularly well disposed towards these two protesting members of our group.

We tried many times to talk to G. about them. He laughed very much when we told him that in their opinion we always gave him “wrong impressions” of them.

“How they value the work,” he said, “and what a miserable idiot I am from their point of view; how easily I am deceived! You see that they have ceased to understand the most important thing. In the work the teacher of the work cannot be deceived. This is a law which proceeds from what has been said about knowledge and being. I may deceive you if I want to. But you cannot deceive me. If it were otherwise you would not learn from me and I would have to learn from you.”

“How must we speak to them and how can we help them to come back to the group?” some of us asked G.

“Not only can you do nothing,” G. said to them, “but you ought not to try because by such attempts you will destroy the last chance they have of understanding and seeing themselves. It is always very difficult to come back. And it must be an absolutely voluntary decision without any sort of persuasion or constraint. You should understand that everything you have heard about me and yourselves are attempts at self-justification, endeavors to blame others in order to feel that they are in the right. It means more and more lying. It must be destroyed and it can only be destroyed through suffering. If it was difficult for them to see themselves before, it will be ten times more difficult now.”

“How could this have happened?” others asked him. “Why did their attitude towards all of us and towards you change so abruptly and unexpectedly?”

“It is the first case for you,” said G., “and therefore it appears strange to you, but later on you will see that it happens very often and you will see that it always takes place in the same way. The principal reason for it is that it is impossible to sit between two stools. And people usually think that they can sit between two stools, that is, that they can acquire the new and preserve the old; they do not think this consciously of course but it comes to the same thing.

“And what is it that they most of all desire to preserve? First the right to have their own valuation of ideas and of people, that is, that which is more harmful for them than anything else. They are fools and they already know it, that is to say, they realized it at one time. For this reason they came to learn. But they forget all about this the next moment; they are already bringing into the work their own paltry and subjective attitude; they begin to pass judgment on me and on everyone else as though they were able to pass judgment on anything. And this is immediately reflected in their attitude towards the ideas and towards what I say. Already ‘they accept one thing’ and ‘they do not accept another thing’; with one thing they agree, with another they disagree; they trust me in one thing, in another thing they do not trust me.

“And the most amusing part is that they imagine they are able ‘to work’ under such conditions, that is, without trusting me in everything and without accepting everything. In actual fact this is absolutely impossible. By not accepting something or mistrusting something they immediately invent something of their own in its place. ‘Gagging’ begins – new theories and new explanations which have nothing in common either with the work or with what I have said. Then they begin to find faults and inaccuracies in everything that I say or do and in everything that others say or do. From this moment I now begin to speak of things about which I have no knowledge and even of things of which I have no conception, but which they know and understand much better than I do; all the other members of the group are fools, idiots. And so on, and so on, like a barrel organ. When a man says something on these lines I already know all he will say later on. And you also will know by the consequences. And it is amusing that people can see this in relation to others. But when they themselves do crazy things they at once cease to see it in relation to themselves. This is a law. It is difficult to climb the hill but very easy to slide down it. They even feel no embarrassment in talking in such a manner either with me or with other people. And chiefly they think that this can be combined with some kind of ‘work.’ They do not even want to understand that when a man reaches this notch his little song has been sung. [...]

“A man may think for a long time and quite sincerely that he wants to work and even make great efforts, and then he may throw up everything and even definitely go against the work; justify himself, invent various fabrications, deliberately ascribe a wrong meaning to what he has heard, and so on.”

“What happens to them for this?” asked one of the audience.

“Nothing-what could happen to them?” said G. “They are their own punishment. And what punishment could be worse?

I have had to work very hard, to study, to develop, to expand my knowledge base of the “language” I am attempting to translate. I’m not perfect – no one is – but I give it my best, and I submit myself to the network to catch errors. When some new data comes in and suggests that changes are necessary, I am willing to make those changes. I don’t feel that I have to be “right” all the time, and I certainly do not insist that “just because the C’s said it, it must be so.” In fact, as I have often said, if the C’s say it, it needs to be checked.

Translators must be trained; they must not only know the other language, they must know how to regulate the degree of fidelity with the source text, how to tell what degree and type of fidelity is appropriate in specific use contexts, how to receive and deliver translations, how to find help with terminology, and so on. All of this suggests a long period of training and preparation. A Translator channel is someone who has studied these things, who knows these things, and who, most importantly, governs their channeling-translating behavior in terms of this knowledge. This knowledge is ideological. It is controlled by Cosmic ideological norms.

To know, via reason, what those Cosmic norms prescribe and act upon them is to submit to the original intent. To become a translator-channel of truly Higher Cosmic Consciousness is to be hailed as a translator by the “invisible hand” of the Universe.

If you want to become a translator-channel, you must submit to the translator’s role of learning the language in an expert way; you must submit to being directed by what the Cosmic ideological norms inform you is the true spirit of the source author, and to convey that spirit unchanged to the target language.

I have certainly had to deal with the fact that, in the early days of the C’s experiment, I, too, had assumptions that had to be laid aside, and most definitely, in my particular case, this very well may have influenced the “translation.” I have endeavored to correct these errors, to restore the true spirit of the source author. That is my job as the translator of the material, as the presenter of the information to the “target audience.” And I will continue to do it as I see fit, as I am directed to do by the “invisible hand” of the Universe.

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Testimonial by Jerry, Cassiopaea Forum member

I’ve been a member of the Cassiopaean Forum since 2008 and have read everything available of Laura Knight Jadczyk’s work. To say her writing has had a profound effect on me and my life is to put it mildly.  And it is certainly not as an entrainment or indoctrination as one is led to believe from the accusation of her being a cult leader, but the change that comes from the challenge to think clearly about everything, particularly oneself.

The scope of her interests is a phenomenon, as is the integrity of research shared with her husband Ark; I have no doubt that any sincere reader will conclude the same, and invite everyone to take the time to read some of Laura and Ark’s work.  I’m sure that the defamations against them will be seen for what they are:  nonsense.

It’s a matter of record who is behind the internet campaign against the Jadczyks.  They were publicly exposed as liars by Laura and the campaign is nothing other than a vengeful response from an intractable, immature disposition.  They need to be exposed again because unfortunately this child’s game is being played with a persistence that is truly pathological.

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Testimonial of Joel Pettersson

I’ve been more or less active on the Cassiopaea forum since early 2008, reading the related material for a bit longer. In short, the forum is a place for whoever is interested in the large amounts of material gathered, analyzed and discussed, who shares the basic interests and approach of the community at large, to gather and discuss with others.

My first encounter with the Cassiopaean material was with the channeled transcripts, provided not at the site, but in the form of an archive to which I found a link. Along with the sessions, there was an introduction, the content of which is also included in the introduction pages at the Cassiopaea site, describing the approach.

I had previously read some channeled New Age material, which for a time had influenced me but for the most part didn’t end up “sticking” – there was too much that didn’t make sense, a lot of material given to be taken “on faith”, of which many contradictory varieties were to be found. In the Cassiopaean sessions, the approach was different: Instead of producing a large volume of channeled text that ran on and on and described this and that in questionable ways, you had a series of meaningful dialogs – a group, people asking questions and discussing and seeing what came out through a board – a mixture of plain, short answers, less plain clues for the people involved, at times longer explanations. And the replies were not taken on faith; rather, it all was and is an experiment where the answers given are judged by their fruits as given when tested and research done.

And as I later learned, apart from the channeling – inspiration – there is a very large body of work produced through research, guided by that inspiration but not limited by it. Reading the channeled stuff by itself without the context of what led to it and that which in turn it led to is even discouraged; the point not being to believe anything, but to seek to get to know, and for that having material based on actual research, rather than merely inspiration the context of which may easily be missed, is preferable.

Still, in reading I found something new; a seed of something coherent, and combining science and mysticism.

I avoided the trap some readers of the raw transcripts have fallen into of “fitting” a large number of things to their existing views and adding the result to their unquestioned concepts. I was simply shocked “open” by what I was reading – I began to seriously consider new possibilities.

Then, I went for the modern Cassiopaea site and read The Wave and the Adventure series – one of the results of the research and experiences of Laura et al. With this material, and later other things referenced such as Gurdjieff and Ouspensky, that “something” I had found grew; a coherent view could form, critical, yet open to possibilities including the mystical.

In short, I found a search, a quest. If there is a deeper meaning to be found, then all is to be gained from searching. And if not, then nothing is lost by trying. A search kick-started by the Cassiopaean material, and conducted together with the network that has grown – a network of seekers critical yet open to possibilities.

And now, about time I describe this network:

Having its origins in a mailing list discussion group many years before I came along, activity moved in gradual steps to the forum after it was made, and now the forum is the main place for interaction.

During its time, many, many have come and gone, some sticking around, be it for a while or for longer. The forum has a unique approach, focus being not only on the many subjects discussed, but also on one’s own psychology, self-work being an important part, and often difficult. This includes critically observing one’s own reactions to things, spotting one’s sacred cows, emotional attachments to viewpoints, and seeking to become more objective. Belief is counter to true understanding, and so the approach includes avoiding to identify with ideas, this being necessary in order to be open to new information and able to apply critical thinking consistently rather than selectively.

From self-observation, here enters a goal of mastering oneself; knowing oneself is needed in order to remove errors of perception and of interpretation from one’s understanding, and in the course of coming to know oneself, one can see quite plainly that automatic reactions, in body, in emotion, in mind, rule one’s being; as such one is not really consciously directed.

One major aspect of this issue is dissociation becomes habitual from one’s early experiences and onwards. And within one is likely to find plenty of things habitually dissociated from, from one’s views of oneself, and others, formed by experiences, to experiences in themselves, to any and all kinds of negative emotions, various deep-seated convictions, and some uncomfortable realizations.

A goal is then to become conscious of all in oneself, to consciously face everything within – and consciously deal with it for real. Here, the input of a network of people with the same goal is key, as it is difficult, if not impossible, to honestly face oneself in full – and so, we help each other by offering our observations of one another’s thoughts and responses.

Even so, it is a long and difficult process, though one with significant fruits, in deepening one’s understanding not just of oneself but also of others, in changing one’s life for the better through efforts and realizations made, in preparing the ground for and then being part of inner growth, and in moving one along in the greater quest to both master oneself and to seek to grow in knowledge.

Some implements have been developed by the network in order to deal with the issues we have in common, ranging from a list of recommended psychological literature and related discussion and application to a breathing and meditation program that stimulates the vagus nerve in order to help in the processing of emotions, in reduction of stress, and in becoming alert yet calm – in short, in a sound mental state for ongoing work, be it inner or outer or both.

We have much understanding in common, but it has to be developed individually, through individual efforts – no one can do the work for another, and simply “believing” things would neither have real results nor give any real understanding.

And so, our journey of discovery and inner growth, in which we all learn new things and change our understanding as new information is found, goes on.

I have had the chance to meet up with a number of people from this community, which confirmed the impression I’ve got through our online interaction of each other – plain, sensible people freely discussing things. The same goes for the people that started it all, Laura et al, who were also present – that group of people, taking the most active initiative in keeping things going and working on the major projects of the community, all seem quite plain and ordinary – except that they have a great capacity to get stuff done, given the small number of people and non-profit nature of their efforts.

On to the subject of the site on which this is posted:

Is this a cult? If so, a rather remarkable one, not the least in what it is lacking – for starters, coercion, manipulation, and money-bilking, all of which inexplicably seem to be missing.

If you come from a mainstream perspective, you could however make a good case that this is a community of seriously geeky people – just look at all the stuff we’re reading and discussing, and our deep, focused interests!

This is considered a testimonial. It’s a bit funny writing a testimonial for a public online community, but in this case there is a need: Given all the things written on the ‘net, including what may be verified to be lies but which nevertheless has driven people away before they chose to investigate – helping to stimulate some interest (for whoever chooses to read this) in finding the truth. I don’t want you to take anything whatsoever on faith; I just hope that what I and others write might serve to inspire digging into the issue and finding out the truth for yourself.

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Testimonial by “Seekin Truth”, Film maker, Cassiopaea Forum Member

I first ran into the Cassiopaea website in 2004 after doing an internet search. I began to read the introduction to the site and became very interested in the material presented. The explanation of the Cassiopaea Experiment superluminal communication – “critical, channeling” using a scientific approach with proper controls and a conscious feedback system utilizing a Spirit Board type instrument done with a group of people, as opposed to trance channeling – intrigued me very much.

I proceeded to read the “Adventures with Cassiopaea” series of articles and followed up by reading “The Wave” series. Reading these two series over several weeks, I found the material to be the most profound and interesting presentation of the most pressing questions facing humanity. Many things that I had been interested in for over 15 years were thoroughly researched and explicated in a manner that I had never seen before. It was such an intriguing find by a chance internet search that I could only spend all my spare time reading to see what else the author, Laura Knight-Jadczyk, had uncovered with such meticulous research and connecting so many varied dots into such an intriguing mosaic.

I continued to explore the Cassiopaea and related websites and finding and reading articles that seemed to cover everything under the sun that any intellectually curious person could possibly be interested in. Shortly afterwards, I discovered the Signs of the Times (sott.net) news and analysis site and began reading about all the current events around the world from this source on a daily basis as it turned out to be the best of its kind, after many years of reading alternative news sites; and it had a very unique perspective and approach to analyzing just what is really going on on this planet of ours. I also began reading the old forum (which was much less well-organized than the current incarnation of the forum that was born in January 2006 and has evolved quite a bit over the years).

What I realized over many months of reading and observing the discussions and interactions on the online discussion group and old forum, was that I had stumbled upon a truly unique group of researchers totally dedicated to objective truth and networking together to help each other access more of objective reality – in fact, to achieve, as a group of sincere individuals committed to the truth, as close an approximation to objectivity as humanly possible.

The great thing was that I found everything I’ve ever been interested in researched in-depth on these websites, including things I had meant to look into deeper but had never gotten around to yet, not to say anything of subjects I wasn’t even aware of.  From diet and health, evolutionary biology and genetics, the cutting-edge findings in the neurosciences, history, official and alternative archeology, environmental issues and earth changes, ALL the latest scientific studies, methods of disinformation analysis, to music and movies and much, much more are covered with the scope that only a large global community of sincere, curious researchers can gather and share. This online community is made up of thousands of people from all walks of life with varied experiences and backgrounds, a few hundred of us being VERY active in the online research and search for objective truth.

I guess I could have been turned off by the whole “channeling” business and left without looking into this wealth of information collected on these websites. But I had for a couple of decades been very interested in the work of psychologist Carl Gustav Jung and his theories about archetypes and the collective unconscious. Through Jung’s work and other synchronicities, I had become very interested in the I Ching, the ancient Chinese method of divination also known as the Book of Changes. Having read about the I Ching in Jung’s and his associates’ work (Jung wrote the Foreword to the first modern and most trusted Western translation into German by Richard Wilhelm) I was very intrigued and finally, beginning in January 1999, I began consulting the I Ching on an ongoing basis about many things that I was unable to figure out on my own, with my own conscious mind and intellectual resources, so to speak. My experience was that one could get some really uncanny answers to the questions asked. And having read Jung’s theories and explanations about how it is all connected to his concepts of archetypal patterns and the collective unconscious shared by all of humanity, my skepticism was kept to reasonable proportions and the results were judged without dismissing such strange things out of hand.

In early February, 2007, I joined the newer Cassiopaea forum and began to participate in the discussions. What I’ve learned during this period, including reading the many and varied recommended books, as well as my interactions with this online community, has positively changed my life in so many ways that it is hard to put into words concisely. Laura and Arkadiusz Jadczyk, the administrators of this worldwide online community, are the most sincere and hard working people I’ve ever come across.

Over this period, I also became aware of a vicious and prolonged campaign of defamation and character assassination aimed at Laura, Ark, and the research network and online community that sadly continues to this day. Looking into these unsubstantiated allegations, I was really surprised and shocked at how totally opposite everything being said was to my own observations and experiences. The more I looked into this contrived “controversy” the more I realized that this gang of cyber-stalkers engaging in this heated defamation campaign seemed to me to be made up of a handful of pathological liars that have been thoroughly exposed in their lies by their own dissimulative and deceptive words and actions. I would only like to urge all sincere and open minded people to look at the documented evidence yourself and make up your own mind.

I’ve also been regularly practicing the Éiriú Eolas breathing and meditation program since it was introduced in summer of 2009 and have seen great benefits with my health, energy, handling of stress, processing of old, traumatic emotions (that we all have accumulated as a kind of burdensome baggage that encumbers our freedom in the present), and my ability to concentrate for long periods of time. Having only minor experience with meditation before starting this practice, it has changed my life for the better in yet more indescribable ways than all my previous experiences with the very helpful and useful information put together by Laura and the rest of the core research team, the Quantum Future Group and shared so generously. Although one can purchase the Eiriu Eolas program DVD and audio CD set, it is also available for free online, as are many of Laura’s books.

As a matter of fact “The Wave” and the old “Adventures with Cassiopaea” online series can be purchased as the 7 (soon to be eight) volume Wave books, but the material is still available totally free on the Cassiopaea website. So another very unique aspect of Laura and Ark is that they are not in it for the money but instead to spread knowledge and its benefits to as many as possible while still being remunerated for their hard work, energy and time, by those who choose to pay for the benefits so that they can continue to work for the same goals.

In the Fall of 2010, I had the pleasure of meeting Laura, Ark, and the rest of the people living at the chateau in France after so many years of only knowing and interacting with them online. I can sincerely say that it was the best experience of down to earth, genuine human companionship I’ve had the honor of encountering in my life. I had truly received wonderful benefits from what Laura and Ark had started and I had begun to participate in sharing for many years, but finally meeting these fine folks gave me a new perspective on their generosity and unparalleled hard work ethic.

I think my own background and life experiences lent themselves to the “unity in diversity,” so to speak, and interdisciplinary aspects and approach of this online research community. I had studied in a pre-engineering program with lots of Advanced Placement sciences and maths such as AP Physics and AP Computer Science, as well as AP Calculus and Trigonometry and Advanced Math, etc. As I was very enthusiastic to become a mechanical engineer (although many people kept trying to convince me that electrical engineering would make a better career), a couple of my friends who were several years older than me were studying engineering in college. One friend who completed his undergraduate studies and became an engineer was basically sitting behind a desk and reading magazines. NOT my idea of what I would like to do as an engineer.

So I decided to change course and study filmmaking instead, as music and filmmaking had been a fascination and passion of mine from a pretty young age. Before starting my filmmaking studies, I researched and read the best material on all the aspects of filmmaking and then began my college film program. In my sophomore year, I was invited into an interdisciplinary “Honors Program” and ended up graduating with that program as my major. I’ve never liked being labeled and “pigeon holed” into any rigid categories and never identified with any title or career. I’ve worked in film and then commercial photography and full-service photo / digital imaging / graphic arts / print production. So the interdisciplinary approach and character of Laura and Ark’s research, as well as the entire global online community is very close to my heart.

They strive for True Science and True Mystic Spirituality – two sides of the same coin in the quest for Objective Truth – without any other political, commercial, or personal agendas involved. I’m honored to be associated with this group of people that strive to help develop as many emotionally and intellectually healthy and wholesome individuals as possible, realizing their highest potential and being productive and fulfilled people doing what they love to do: learn, grow, and share what they’ve learned to help others interested in doing the same.

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Testimonial of C.M., Cassiopaea Forum Member

I came across Laura Knight Jadczyk’s work in early 2008 through “The Wave” book series. To say that my jaw dropped to the floor is an understatement.  In her books she presented a reality that was so far from what I had, up till then, heard or read about, that it changed my world view in a fundamental way.  Now this didn’t happen overnight, neither did I simply take her word for it. As I began to research on some of the topics she was discussing, lo and behold, a whole new world began to unveil itself right before my eyes.
Today, after much reading and digging, I value the depth of her work more then ever. Many have said here, and I can only reiterate their words, that she has done an incredible job in putting the pieces of the puzzle together.

One of things that struck me in her work was the absence of the feel-good, all-you-need-is-love type of thinking so popular these days in mainstream new age thinking.  Admittedly, while reading “The Wave” I felt, at times, like I was being punched in the stomach by the nature of the deeply disturbing things that were being presented to me. However, and this is a huge however, had I actually known these things earlier, my life would surely had been positively different in many aspects.
I learned that more important then trying to impose a self constructed image of love and harmony in the world I live in, I should rather look at it to See it for what it really is. I began to learn to distinguish the difference between fooling myself into oblivion by seeing only what I wanted to see and becoming prey to abusive people and the world at large, and looking at things for what they truly are, accept them, understand them, and try to work with reality as it is.
I have also learned that the above is incredibly challenging for most people’s belief systems. It rips apart a self constructed world view that keeps them enclosed in a self soothing bubble. When the bubble is challenged, they often attack.

The attack has taken the form of accusations of cult, brainwashing, you name it.  Initially I felt confused and when reading the accusations thought, surely no one can lie as much as Laura’s accusers do! Well, that was a lesson, they can. I have seen it over and over again, outrageous, mind boggling distortions of what actually happens on the cassiopaea forum.
And then there are the ones whose self importance has been bruised by having their beliefs questioned during their stay on the forum, who then run away to shout out loud their own clouded, ego hurt, twisted views of what the forum is about.

When I was a child, I remember feeling very confused about how the world could take so many different shapes and colours in people’s eyes, and how a decision I made could have a completely different result had it been done the day before. The point being, I was confused with the lack of consistency in the real aim of my own and others’ decisions, and with the lack of consistency of what seemed to be reality. Reality seemed to be this moldable formless substance that one could shape at one’s own will, though there were no clear rules and the results were often very bad. This idea is reinforced by nowadays conformism to a perspective where everyone has different beliefs and that’s the end of it, and the popular “you create your own reality”.

Well, I’m not in the least surprised that Laura’s work has suffered such relentless attack for challenging all that, for having as a departing point, seeing reality for what is, despite one’s own more often then not deeply flawed belief systems, for understanding that despite the truth that partially resides in the words “you create your own reality”, there is a masked insidious lie that leads people to assume they can jump into forcing the universe to work in their own benefit, without having even a glimpse at themselves, at their state of being.  How this can be qualified as cultish is absolutely beyond me.

When I found the cassiopaea forum I was astonished at the level of care and respect I observed in the interactions between forum members. This was no ordinary chit-chat-let’s-get-together-and-throw-in-opinions group. No, this was, and is, a place where everyone is invited to question everything they have so far learned, where blind uninformed opinions are discouraged, dissected, and understood for what they are: beliefs that often hold no connection to reality. Contrary to the almost humorous brainwashing accusations it has to withstand, it encourages members to search and explore for themselves, and in no way shape or form blind belief is induced or even suggested, quite the opposite.

My personal experience with the forum has been profoundly insightful.
I began to address my emotional, mental and physical health, and have achieved results I never thought possible. This is no overstatement, neither have I been deluded into just believing this, as some accuse members to have been. Having twice as much energy throughout the day, having solved skin problems, said goodbye to morning fogginess and overall inability to concentrate (when compared to childhood), dealt with childhood trauma, with anxiety and irritability, those concrete results are not delusion, they are facts.

The wealth of information freely given on the forum is also absolutely staggering. And contrary to what one is used to, every single piece of information is checked and cross checked for validity. I have never seen any unsupported statements, only data that is carefully scrutinized.
I am deeply, deeply thankful for what I have, and am learning through Laura’s work. It is having a profoundly positive impact in my life.

C. M.

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Testimonio de Tom Knight

Laura ha estado trabajando en el proyecto Cassiopaea durante un buen número de años.  Me enteré de esto  poco después que ella comenzara. Estaba muy excitada sobre ello y llevaba a cabo una investigación para corroborar si la información que estaba recopilando era  correcta. Por supuesto no podía confirmarlo todo pero sí ha habido un montón de información que ha podido confirmar. Ella solía enviarme discos de ordenador con transcripciones grabadas y también copia de las transcripciones. Al leerlas y hablar con ella quedé convencido que ella había realmente encontrado algo. La información que ella ha reunido simplemente suena cierta; en muchos casos tiene más sentido que las cosas que nos enseñan en la iglesia, la escuela, libros, y otros oficiales.

Cuando iba a visitarla a ella y a su familia, ella siempre tenía pilas de libros que estaba leyendo, había leído o iba a leer. Ella no tomaba el material de los Casiopeos como moneda de ley, ella comprobaba y sigue comprobándolo todo.

He conocido a Laura toda su vida y se que ha trabajado muy duro en esto y por mucho tiempo ha hecho casi todo el trabajo e investigación por sí misma. Cuando empezó a intentar llevar su información al público ella hizo todo el trabajo y corrió con los gastos también.

Decir que ella dirige una secta es más que  ridículo para mi. Mi idea de una secta es donde una persona esta a cargo de cada aspecto de la vida de sus miembros y para ser un miembro debes entregar todo lo que tienes a esta. Hay otros criterios también pero estos  son los más destacables para mí.

He conocido  algunas de las personas que al principio la ayudaron y trabajaron con ella, y ellos eran, igual que Laura, solo gente normal y común. Creo que nunca he conocido a  Vincent Bridges;  sí conocí a “Frank” y no quedé  tan impresionado.

Todos los ataques contra ella y su proyecto me parecen estúpidos. Mucha gente que se dedica a atacar están simplemente siguiendo ciegamente a otros, no tienen ni idea de lo que ocurre realmente. Los únicos que saben lo que ocurre son los que instigan los ataques y la razón de sus ataques es que se sienten amenazados, quieren callarla porque no quieren que la verdad se sepa.

Para mi, mi hermana es solo una chica de Florida normal con una insaciable sed de verdad y sueños de un mundo mejor para todos.

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Testimonial of Iron Francisco de Paula, Brazil

Hello to all that may read this. My name is Iron Francisco de Paula Junior.
I speak from Brazil and I am pursuing my master degree in Biochemistry.
I begin this by announcing my full name, because if there is anything I learned in all those years reading and interacting with Laura, Ark and others, is that a “Lion does not suffer the fate of a mouse”.

So striving to be a Lion, here I stand for the truth.

A little about my history before telling you about how Laura and the Cass guys changed my life. I always think that my spiritual journey began when I was nine years old. I saw a movie on TV portraying suicide, and that image stuck in my head. Days later, when my mother denied me some childhood random desire, I threatened to kill myself with a butter knife. My mother and Father stood powerless, my mother in tears. Seeing my mother like that I dropped the knife, and understood the power that a human being has to make another suffer as a result of one’s actions. I then vowed, to never make my mother or anyone cry again, and to understand this sorrow. Then I began to ask even more questions and seek religions. Nothing gave me satisfactory answers. So, eventualy in my early twenties, I gave up.
It was a very dark  period of my life. I was young, lost, confused and full of hatred of the world; a chaotic, senseless world it seemed to me. I was almost nihilistic, and I was fond of being unaffected by the world’s worst. Pain, you say? I trained myself to feel amost none. Revulsion and disgust? There was no gory movie that could faze me. I was ready for this godless world. Perhaps god was playing golf somewhere, so I had to find him, in the afterlife. But this life? Brutal, and brutal I was too, in a “nice” way, if that is possible.

Fast speed to 2003. I was at my new computer, looking for Matrix references, when I found montauk.org… my interest in the occult was renewed, but still it was like a intellectual exercise. In the same year, I found Cassiopaea.org, found the 2012 prophecies and started reading The Wave. It marked me so deeply that I made an email to remind me always that in 2003 I discovered the “end of the world”.  Silly, hmmm?  But it was the end of the world as I knew it and the beginning of a New World of hope.

Somehow, the Cassiopaea.org stuff grew on me. It still amazes me how much of the Wave I would read in one sitting… a year reading became two, three, I could not get enough!
I started trying out some things that those internet people said in the old Cass discussion group in my real life. And I saw that there were lots of real life applications, it was not just theory! I began to realize that these people had different features from other spiritual sites. Laura was stern when needed, however most of the time she was mother-like. She could produce articles faster than I could read, I still am amazed with this fact. And not a 200 letter article mind you. I’m talking like mammoth amounts of information!

Another thing slowly happened. I began to change how I think. I began to  be more open to possibilities. I became less and less dogmatic, and more prone to read about something carefully and deeply before deciding how I feel about it. The interaction with Laura steered my views of knowledge out from the ivory towers of academia, and into the realms of practical knowledge. Then Eiriu Éolas happened. And things started to really change fast, old hatreds, health problems that I considered to be part of me already, all were fading away like a bad dream! Who would ever say that I would regenerate the relationship with my father in this life?  Well, I did!
And the people to whom I showed Eiriu Éolas also had amazing things happening to them. You see, all this woman Laura touches, begins to grow, to branch out, and help more and more people. She and her husband, are affecting the world in very tangible ways.  She now has a forum where people discuss and dissect ways of being more healthy, more helpful, more knowledgeable. Her forum is like ten or more foruns in one, combining science, misticism, nutrition and cute pictures of animals and things!

And this person gives it all for FREE. Heck, she is even teaching people so that someday, whoever wants to, may be able to do their own superluminal communication experiment! One thing you can’t say about her is that she hoards knowledge!

So here I stand, with more health, more knowledge, and more feeling for life, thanks to persons I never interacted with physically, who teach me the value of true integrity, of being truthful even when the world is against you. Laura taught me the value and power of the feminine. She showed me, and many others, how to explore these many avenues, to seek out many authors, to learn, as she herself often says to seek knowledge from multiple sources.

So there it is. A ‘cult’ that gives everything for free, that respects your free will, and the fruits of this cult make people healthier, wiser and more lively.  A ‘cult’ that enforces critical thinking. Strange ‘cult’, indeed.
She never asked me to, but I stand up for this Laura. By her writings and advice I became a different person, more able to help those around me;  others that she never even saw, or interacted on the forum benefited from her work already.

Had I never encountered Laura, I probably would still be the same Vulcan-like excuse of a human, emotionless, cynical, full of hatred.

I hope that the universe itself may hear my words, and give this woman and her family some rest from the accusations and attacks.

Peace to all.

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Statement of “Istina”, Cassiopaea Forum Member

I began my research in esoterica and spirituality in the 1990s. when some members of a sect, religion or whatever it was called, were literally knocking at my door. Usually they gave or sold their magazines, books and brochures which I curiously read. Then I  read the Bible for the first time, even though I was raised in a catholic environment (what in socialist society was not exactly popular either).   All this opened up many new questions in me, especially about how and why there is evil in this world.

At the end of the nineties I began to meditate and practice Reiki. I read all possible newage literature on spirituality, which in the post – communist society in my country, began to spring up like mushrooms after rain. I took some courses and spiritual initiations and met some spiritual teachers, psychics, ascended masters, gurus and shamans, some channelers, a woman who claims to live on prana and heals with music and so on.  Still I was starving to learn, to know more. Everywhere I learned something, but there was always something missing, or I simply did not relate to people.

All those stories about: think positive, be nice, spread love and light, chanting mantras, wearing  white,… did not gave me the answers I sought. Some of them were nice people, the others were not so nice. Sometimes I noticed that my teacher has an “ego” at least the same as mine, and was teaching me how to get rid of it!  Or I noticed that some other teacher tuaght me that I will have prosperity in life if I just think positive, and he  had comparable or even worse problems in his life than me.  Once my teacher gave me a picture of her (living) guru, and since I did not have a piece of paper, I wanted to write on the back of the picture her phone number. She jumped up furiously in horror, as if I wanted to profane something the most sacred. I don’t need to say that I did not stay there, even though their breathing techniques I found very useful.

I think I’ve seen enough of the New Age milieu to know what a real cult is.

After all my experiences, I knew that basically I had not changed, and I wondered what was wrong with me, why I cannot follow any teacher and his group, why I did not belong anywhere? Mainstream religion and  science did not give me the answers I was seeking, not even as much as the blooming newage movement, so it must  mean something was wrong with ME.

Once I was told that all this knowledge I was collecting is nothing compared to the love for god in an ignorant peasant. That statement hit me a bit.  I felt guilty because it looked as though my way of  learning and seeking knowledge is not good enough to become advanced in spirituallity, that the way I was made was not a way to reach the divine.
Actually, I am glad that I have passed through all of that, because now I can compare it with Laura and her work.

Somewhere in 2005 or 2006 I encountered  some of Laura’s work (primarily Cassiopaean transcripts and Wave) on some local websites. I’ve never been a member of a any forum, and I never even wanted to. Just an idea to belong to a strange group, sect or religion, always caused resentment in me. But I wanted to know more about these Cassiopaeans and Laura, so I spent more and more time searching. I did not see anything like my previous experiences with incipient gurus so  I become “lurker” on the Cassiopaea forum. In fact, so many things that I found there completely resonated with me deeply in my heart.

I finally joined the Cassiopaea forum at the end of 2009., when I wanted to read some things that I knew were only available only to forum members. And that was the best decision in my life!

Finally I found that knowledge IS love and found that the seeking for true knowledge is the right path to the divine.

In this past year that I spent in the forum, although I was a little limited due to insufficient knowledge of English, I learned perhaps more than in the ten previous years of desperate searching! I now know that everything is OK with me, or rather – that something IS really wrong with me, and not only me, but here I found many answers to WHY it is so! In this suffering, ponerized world, rulled by psychopaths – who may be normal??

In Laura’s work and the work of the people around her, there is so much knowledge – from the ordinary everyday life to the deepest philosophical and scientific truth, and “high strangness”, that I do not know whether one life is enough for everything to be studied. Yes, she channeled, but she always trys to check and research all about that,  and never requires blind belief in anything, especially if it can not be verified. As Laura’s husband, a scientist,  Ark has said: “I do not want to believe, I want to know!” What is particularly different about Laura from all the New Age movement, is that she seeks to verify and investigate all the facts with scientific researches. And most importantly, she always tests her knowledge first on herself and her team of researchers. She really lives that truth she speaks of!

You should go to the C’s forum and see how much she and her associates are investing generously in all possible lines of knowledge for all who need it.  And it’s completely free! On this forum you can find all about health, diet and detoxifying, as much as about political, social or environmental issues. But this is not the forum where you’ll get instant knowledge – you are expected to invest your own effort to explore all of what is discussed.
I do not know how many times on the forum I had experienced enlightening and liberating “WOW” and “AHA” moments!

In addition, on the forum I found (even before I became a member of the forum) extraordinary breathing and meditation technique, (yes, similar to the one I’ve already tried in the new age phase, but this time, more powerfull and without mystification), with very clear scientific explanations of physiology of the process. And this time – absolutely free! It is called Eiriu Eolas and I recommend it everyeone. This breathing technique is extremely fast acting against stress. Since I began to practice it I have no more pain in the shoulders and my back and I became much calmer. People around me have noticed a big change in me in appearance and behavior. But there is much more to this healing technique for those who are searching for truth.

I had the great fortune to spend several days in France with Laura and her team, and after that, if I had any doubts about these people, there is certainly no more! It is such a group of people who everyone would want to be friend with or have them as family members. Laura is such a nice, simple, motherly warm woman, with a sense of humor, ordinary woman who raised five children, that it is just nonsens to say anything about cult. Nothing, absolutely nothing like a guru or any kind of “ascended master” or anything that I could experience in my new age past! The same is with Chateau crew: highly educated friendly people, experts in their fields, fully grounded, simple, honest and kind people, absolutely nothing that resembled to the members of the sect or cult. Sane and hard working people with great sense of humor. If I find anything like cult, surely I would have left, as before!
On the contrary, after all, I felt like I was back home. These are people who persistently and uncompromisingly seek the truth about this world and the universe, and generously share their knowledge to the entire world!  If there was going to be an “End of the World” – which they say there isn’t – this is the  group of people with whom I’d like to spend my time until that final day!

Indeed, anyone with a little common sense might ask why so many malicious lies and attacks against such people? Who do they bother if their work is not true?
I’m really happy and immensely grateful that after years of searching I found these people. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for everything I have received!

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